Exclusive interview with Samuel A. Weems, author of the soon- to-be published book "Armenia: The Great Deception-Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State."

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TDN: The Elian Gonzalez case in Florida seems to be a precedent in U.S. history where an ethnic lobby so blatantly resisted the U.S. justice system. Do you think defiant lobbies could pose problems in the future?

WEEMS: In this case the American justice system won. There may be resistance by some groups in the future, but that is unlikely. I don't expect Armenians to ever do such a thing. There are only about one million of them out of the some 285 million of other nationalities in the U.S. The Armenian way has always been by sneak-back room attacks in the black of night. I expect them to continue these tactics.

TDN: Some Armenian groups in California have lobbied for lighter sentences for terrorist acts. How do you think the developments after September 11 might affect the attitudes of such groups?

WEEMS: The Armenian Americans will just keep on keeping on begging and mooching money to try to turn this terrorist murderer, Hampig Sassoonian, back out on American streets! Even though the Armenian American terrorist has had his day in court, had the best legal defense money could buy, California found him guilty and said he must serve a life sentence. Armenian Americans today have raised more than $300,000, all trying to get him out of prison to walk the streets again. Most Americans would not approve of this conduct if they knew it!

TDN: Can you please explain how your background as a state prosecutor has helped you to write this book?

WEEMS: Two things: Good research skills and the habit of always looking to tie events together to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. I used perhaps as much as 90% research from Armenian sources to write my book. One clue would lead me to another, and then to another, and I simply developed my book point by point.

Permit me to share one example: On the second page of his Armenian history book, an Armenian professor stated there were two million Armenians living within the Ottoman Empire in 1915. Later he claims more than 1 million of this number were massacred by the Turks.

In another book, the good professor provides numbers to prove that there were about the same number of Armenian refugees as the original population, thus disproving his own genocide claims. I didn't have to do anything to prove or disprove genocide. I let the good Armenian professor do the documentation. I just pointed to the obvious, blaring discrepancies. The proof is that about half of the Armenians living within the Ottoman Empire didn't live in the war zone in Anatolia, and were not removed. This good professor listed footnotes and when I checked them out I discovered that there were several American and British eyewitnesses. All I did was to total the numbers supplied by the Armenian historian and his numbers simply didn't add up! I also then went to British, French, Russian and Italian historical numbers, also listed by the Armenian historian.

When you take all the numbers together plus the American and British eyewitnesses, there it is, plain as day, there was no genocide and there is proof that the Armenians cooked the books and counted people removed as both massacred and as refugees. When they wanted pity, money, and reparation, all these refuges were "killed"; but when it was time to prove to the West that Armenians did have numbers to establish a state of their own, all of those "dead" refugees, all of a sudden, came back to life! Magic!

TDN: It was not until the last few minutes before a vote on the Armenian genocide that the speaker of the House of Representatives withdrew the proposed legislation because it could harm U.S. national security. Isn't this process confusing for legislato rs and risky for the U.S. to allow such proposed legislation to advance to such a point? Some lawmakers believe that they were being asked to ignore historical fact because it complicated foreign policy. How do you interpret the developments above and their effects on lawmakers?

WEEMS: The truth is the Republican Speaker of the House attempted to save face by making a claim of national security when he withdrew the resolution. The rest of the story and the truth is that the Speaker didn't have the votes to pass it, and this is why he withdrew it! There is a hardcore group of Republicans; I call them extremists, who could not care less about national security if they could have passed the resolution. They had been bought and paid for with Armenian American political campaign money, just like the Armenian Americans are trying to buy Mrs. Dole in North Carolina.

One basic fact must be remembered. The Republican members of Congress were trying to pass a "Resolution." A Resolution has no force of law and does nothing but express an opinion. It is not a law as such. In truth such a Resolution is meaningless and isn't worth the paper it is written on because it couldn't do anything except make Armenians feel good. Of course had such a Resolution passed, the Armenians would have had a feeding frenzy, trying to use it to get more money out of the American Con gress as well as trying to force Turkey to give in and buy them off for a while with lira and land.

What is so odd to me is the fact Turkey and the United States are good trading partners. The two countries did more than 7 billion dollars of trade with each other just last year. Turkey bought more than one billion dollars more in the U.S. than the U.S. did in Turkey. And what about the Armenians? Almost zero! Armenia's number one export is terrorism and their number one import is foreign aid.

TDN: How successfully or poorly has the Turkish government, public, and Turkish Americans responded to the allegations of genocide?

WEEMS: I know a few Turkish Americans who are true champions for Turkey. The sad truth is that they are too few and they have little funding to compete against a well-oiled and funded Armenian lobby organization. The Armenians have perhaps 40-50 full t ime professionals in Washington D.C. doing nothing but working each and every day to undercut Turkey and Azerbaijan and promote themselves for more foreign aid taxpayer funding. Turkish Americans have 0 staff and office working for them in Washington, D .C. The Turks really should do more to protect themselves. All they have to do is tell the truth! Here is an eye-opening calculation: Armenians, in the last 10 years, have probably spent about 14 million dollars to support all the political candidates that they did. When those candidates got elected, Armenian got 1.4 billion dollars in the same 10 years as U.S. Foreign Aid. That is, for every one dollar Armenian Americans "invested," they got $100 back in U.S. aid to Armenia! 100 to 1 return! This is better return than Las Vegas casinos! Wake up Turkish Americans! Get involved!

TDN: What aspects of your book do you expect Armenians will criticize most?

WEEMS: How about the front cover, the back cover, and every word in between! They have already started. I received my first Armenian hate email just yesterday. The Armenian said my book was "lies, lies, lies" and was "nothing but Turkish revisionism."

What makes this comment so interesting is the fact that this person made all those wild accusations about my book without even reading it yet, because it hasn't been printed as yet.

I expect Armenians to attack each and every word in my book. I also expect them to attack me with their off-the-wall comments. This has been the Armenian trademark since 1918. If anyone doesn't toe the line and say and do what Armenians want and de mand, they are attacked.

They attacked soon to be United States President Hubert Hoover when he tried to help them at the end of World War I. Mr. Hoover didn't want to give U.S. dollars to corrupt dictators without checks and balances, to insure the money was used for the people. The Armenians, of course, didn't want any part of honesty, so they attacked him. They attacked an American navy admiral and a U.S. Army colonel because these brave and honest American soldiers objected to Armenian misrepresentations, corruption, and massacre tall tales. The Armenians attacked United States President Woodrow Wilson because he refused to give them Muslim land from "sea to sea" (that is from Trabzon in the Black Sea to Adana in the Mediterranean) and would not spend ó billion dollars and commit 70,000 American troops to clear the Muslim lands for Armenians. Armenians attacked the United States Senate, because they refused to vote for an Armenian mandate in 1920. Had the Senate voted to send American troops to give Muslim lands to Armenians, the

United States would have involved itself in its first Vietnam of the 20th century. Armenians even attacked American Christians and missionaries because they didn't help them enough. Seems, as though they felt that $50 million dollars from the American Christian community was not enough.

Another little known fact is that the Armenians borrowed another $50 million from the United States government in 1919, with promises to pay back. Armenians cut a deal and became Communists in 1920 and said to the U.S., because they were now Communists, they didn't have to repay the loan.

Now, I will ask an accountant friend of mine to calculate for me just how much that $50 million is with all the interest, compounded over the years. Some say it could reach billions of dollars. As an American taxpayer, I demand that Armenia pay back the loan to my country. That's my tax money they are sitting on.

As you can see, I will be in good company each time an Armenian attacks me!

TDN: Are parts of the U.S. media biased, if so why, and what can be done?

WEEMS: There is no question but that some media is biased. However, it is not uncommon to read good travel articles about Turkey. I think the problem is that the 40-50 Armenian professionals who lobby the media, and the Turks don't. This is a sad trut h and only the Turks themselves can make a commitment, put their money where their mouth is, and provide an alternative to the present day one-sided Armenians who provide day after day slanted information. The Turks should be presenting truth rather tha n silence!

TDN: Your title "Armenia: The Great Deception-Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State" may make many people uneasy. How did you decide this should be the title of your book? Do you think Muslims have a point when they say that the press does not labe l terrorists who are Christian as "Christian terrorists" (such as Timothy McVeigh, the unabomber, and Serbs who committed genocide in Srebrenica) but never fail to add Muslim if the terrorist is a Muslim?

WEEMS: This is not the title I used when I first began researching my book four years ago. However, as I did my research in Washington, D.C., Paris, Rome, Moscow and London, I found reference after reference, hundreds of them, about activities from the lowest priests to the head of the Armenian Church, and their direct involvement in what any Christian, or any fair minded person for that matter, would consider terrorist acts. The first chapter on my book is also the last chapter I wrote and it is titled "Holy Terror." I explain in detail specific terrorist acts committed by officials of the Armenian Church as well as their political activity. For a quick example, there is this episode in an Armenian church in Adana, just before the Armenian rebellion in Adan a in 1909, I believe, where the top Armenian priest sermons to a packed audience "Sell your coat on your back if you have to and buy guns with it." Such open invitation to rebellion via armed violence so outrages an American priest, who happens to be th ere that day, he storms out of the church in anger!

I hope the book does make Christians uncomfortable! American Christians too often live in a comfort zone. They must discover the great truth for themselves. I don't ask anyone to accept my book at face value. I ask only that American Christians read the book with an open mind and then study for themselves to find truth about Armenia.

After Christians do their homework, and should they find for themselves that I am a truth teller, they must speak out and demand that their church and their government stop giving their hard-earned money to Armenia. For any Christian to stand by and say nothing when truth is presented is to give approval to Armenian terrorism. It is just that simple!

Muslims have a valid complaint about the way the American media mentions "Muslim" to explain terrorism. This isn't fair, nor is it just, because they don't use "Christian" to describe Christian terrorists.

In all fairness, I must note there is a major effort being made within the United States after September 11th to make a big point of the fact that Muslim extremists do not represent a vast majority of the Muslim world. Personally, based on my experiences with the 97%-98% Muslims of Turkey, I could not have been treated better even if I was a Christian. All Americans can learn from the Turks and respect everyone regardless of their religion. The true test is what is in a person's heart: Give love and respect, and love and respect come back to you. I wish that Americans would follow this Turkish example of "Peace at home and peace in the world." It is such a shame that Turkey's next door neighbor Armenia refuses to follow this great teaching of "Peace at home and peace in the world" also.

At the risk of sounding self-serving, let me reiterate here, that every Turk should read my book to understand how they were short changed by Armenian propaganda over the years. I am planning to send free copies of my book to every Christian priest and minister in America, as my book sales can finance such efforts. I welcome help from Turkish business community to expedite this project. The faster I can pass this message along to Church leaders in America, the faster attitudes in America will change to see the Turkish side of the story, as well as distance the average American from Armenian allegations. If anyone wants more information about my book they can go to my publisher's web site at www.stjohnpress.com.

Thank you for giving me this opportunity of sharing my thoughts. As I have traveled the great nation of Turkey over this past four years I have been received warmly everywhere I went. I appreciate the great heart of the Turks. My only regret is that I could not openly travel in Armenia, nor could I receive cooperation in the Armenian national archives that are located in America. I believe that it is difficult to have peace in the Near East because Armenia is such a closed society. I hope this cold attitude will change in the years to come and neighbors can become real neighbors in the Near East.

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About the author

Samuel Weems writes a regular newspaper column and has a great deal of experience in the political arena. He describes himself as a Scottish American, a life long Baptist, and a taxpayer. He has done extensive research in archives in Washington, London, Paris, Moscow, and Istanbul. He was elected one of one hundred delegates to rewrite his state's constitution. He served as an elected member of his city council. He was also elected district attorney and a judge. While serving as a district attorney, he did extensive work in Washington D. C. to reform the nation's welfare and prison systems. Weems will be in Istanbul in mid-March to promote his book, which will be out by April 1, and to take part in a symposium.